New Variant Requests
This Wiki is for generating a wishlist for variants of existing GT games, no requests for scrabble, bridge, whist, Jass, snap, Pool (!?) should appear here! ( use [ Ideas for Games
] for that).
Note that while it is hoped to be able to do some work in this area in the near future, the variant squirrels are making no promises at this stage ;-).
Page created by JK
- feel free to send me any thoughts about game variants, especially Reversi and 4iar and we can discuss things more thoroughly.
- The game takes its name from the fact that players hold 13 cards each, like in bridge.
- Game can be played by 2,3,4 players
- Basic rules for 2 players follow:
- Each player gets 13 cards
- Pone (chosen exactly like in cribbage) starts the game placing her/his card on the table.
- Dealer adds her/his card to the one already on the table.
- Players collect points for pairs, runs, 15s and for FLUSHES (this is different than in regular cribbage)
- Game continues until 31 points (or Go) is reached on the table (exactly like in regular cribbage)
- After the first 31 or Go is reached game continues the same way until all the cards from players hands are on the table
- At any time during the game (when their turn come of course) players can discard one or two cards to dealer's crib.
- Only after each player discarded 2 cards to dealer's crib the deck is cut to reveal a starter card.
- After all the cards were played, dealer counts the points in her/his crib. There is no counting points in players hands.
- Game is played to 121 points.
Game for 3 players is exactly the same but the first card to the crib is discarded at the beginning of the game and players
discard one of their cards later on, during the game. Other rules are exactly the same as for 2 players.
Game for 4 is where the beauty of partnership shows its face. It has all the qualities of the best card games. It belongs to the family of Climbing games, where the goal is to reach some numerical target(s), in this case just 31 points. Skilled team can show its talents in many ways.
I believe this game has a good potential to attract players.
2. Black Cat Cribbage
- As in regular cribbage, sufficient cards are dealt, so that each player has a 4-card hand & so that the dealer also has a 4-card crib. Also, a starting card is turned up, once the crib is complete. The dealer scores 2 points for turning up a jack.
- The cards have the same value for counting as usual, except that the jack now has a value of 11.
- Points scored when counting:
* 1 point, for playing a card that brings the total to 13.
* 2 points, for playing a card so that the total is 22.
* 3 points, for bringing the total to exactly 31.
* 1 point, for playing a card giving a total that's less than 31, but so that nobody can get closer to 31 without going over.
* 2 points for a pair (same rank) at the top of the counting pile; 3 for a trio; 4 for a set of four.
* 3 points for a run of 3 (in any order); 4 points for a run of 4, etc. Here the suit does not matter.
- Points scored for hand or crib, including the starting card:
* 2 points for a pair; 3 for a trio; 4 for a set of four.
* 3 points for a run of 3; 4 for a run of 4; 5 for a run of 5. Here the suit does not matter.
* 4 points if all 4 cards are of the same suit; 5 points if the starting card also is of that suit.
* 2 points for each set of cards with a total value of 13.
* 1 point for king and queen of the same suit; 3 points if that suit is the same as that of the starting card.
The game continues until one of the players has a score of 121 or more points.
- Large Dice Pipes- As a relatively new player to dice pipes, it seems to me that the game would benefit from an increase in size, perhaps 20x20 or 24x24. It would allow for a more strategic approach to the game rather than on just the luck of the dice. I recently won a game in 3 or 4 moves because I was very lucky with the rolls and my opponent wasn't. That felt far too quick... The larger board would reduce the impact of a few lucky rolls and allow the opponent to have more opportunity to block. The other Pipes variants might also benefit from a larger board, but Dice Pipes seems especially suited to it.
Dice Pipes...make a 3pt and a 5pt on dice pipes
1. Grandma Jong
[In addition to the 4 basic melds, there now are 3 new ones:
- Wind Power (the 4 wind tiles, as a set)
- Dragon Power (the 3 dragon tiles, as a set)
- Triple Play (3 numbered tiles of equal rank, one from each suit)
Also, if after playing a meld, one has a single tile left, that tile can be discarded to end the round.]
2. Wild Tile Mahjong
[There now is a new meld called Trio (3 tiles with the same number, one from each suit).
Also, each dragon can be used as a wild tile for one of the suits.
That is, the white dragon counts as a wild circles tile;
green dragon, wild bamboos tiles; red dragon, wild characters tile.
A dragon cannot be used as a wild tile in the Eyes meld, but is valid as such in all the other melds.
In a meld where a dragon substitutes for a numbered tile, there cannot be more than one dragon.]
- Backward Backgammon, where you can move your counters forward and backward.
- I think this is a great idea
- Real Acey-Deucy (o:
- Backgammon Race
- Maybe a variant with Jacoby rule, automatic doubles and/or beavers
- Chouette - a multiplayer backgammon game, although I think only 2 actually play and the others just manipulate their own doubling cube.
- The Jail
- Multiplayer back/nack where you use the same numbers thrown for all the games.
- This would be interesting, to watch how the different boards diverge.
- Would have to be restricted to one point matches (no doubling) I think.
- Roll-over Backgammon. see http://www.bkgm.com/variants/RollOver.html
- For Ace/Duecy, The way I learned it, Doubles are like backgammon doubles. Acey/Ducey must be moved, then take and move any doubles of your choice, then you get another roll. The end game was played the hard way. you needed a number to roll to bear off. No moving down.i.e. If you roll a six and don't have one, tough, no taking a five or next number. However that makes for VERY long games. Keep the end game like backgammon, but no extra roll on doubles. It's not called Acey/Deucy for nothing. Oartkickel of the Wolf Pack
- I have played a version of gammon called Greek Backgammon, it is similar to race where you start the game with all your pips on the bar on the opposite side to your home board and proceeds the same way initially, but if you hit a pip, instead of sending it to the bar, you actually block it from moving, eg. I am playing white and hit a black pip my white pip can sit there on top of black until I choose to move it, and black is blocked from moving that pip. Also in the version I have played in you roll 2 doubles in a row, you lose a turn, now I am sure this would please some players!! (rofl) Its a really great tactical game but I have never seen it online Dream This is called Plakoto in other places, except for the doubles rule. Masonsmith
- I was weaned on a Dutch version called Tric Trac which is similar to Greek Backgammon mentioned above where you start with all your pips on the bar and must bring them all onto the board before you can move out of your opponent's home board. After that, the game progresses normally. Dogpile
- I noticed that the cube makes the game exciting in the middle stages of a game, but not at the end. At the end, the game plays like regular backgammon. A tournament where the game is scored, for example, 9-4, instead of a win or a loss, would be great. A game variant where the cube wasn't frozen and wins and losses were recorded according to the match score would be awesom. This format could be used in a tournament setting so that the overall rating would stay is the T zone and not affect the overall rating. Whimjest
- Backgammon Race where the game begins with all the checkers on the bar.
- The typical Greek Backgammon continuous play of alternating games: Portes (=1-point Backgammon), Plakoto (as above) and Fevga (almost like Nardy=Russian Backgammon) - full rules for all three games on http://www.bkgm.com/variants/index.html in the Middle Eastern area. It is called Tavli in Greece and Cyprus, and is played almost every day in the Greek cafes. Not, of course, the tourist ones on the coast, but the inland ones, where the board and pips are free if you have just one coffee. What about giving that a try in the backgammon variants? You can get the rules on http://users.hol.gr/~mmagirou/
- Matches with a fixed number of games and unrestricted use of the doubling cube, the winner being determined by the higher score at completion of the stipulated number of games. This eliminates use of the Crawford Rule which is an annoyingly artificial compromise to permit use of the cube in limited-points matches. In the event of a tie on score the winner is determined by the number of backgammons won, followed by the number of gammons. If all else fails a tie-breaker can be played to determine the winner.
- Allow player selection of match length, either in number of points (for fixed points, variable length matches) or number of games (fixed length, variable points matches).
- How about a backgammon variant using Sicherman dice? The odds of rolling a 2-12 are the same, but the odds of rolling a double drop to 1 in 9, and you can't roll above a double4. You can also get single moves up to 8 so it would give rise to all sort of new strategies. More details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicherman_dice
- Fayles--start with two checkers on the back point and 13 already home (on the six-point). Blots are returned to the back point--if you have taken that point, you may not hit. Three dice, doubles and triples are nothing special. And the key rule--if you can't use all three dice, you lose the game. Gammons and backgammons don't exist, and while the doubling cube is not traditional, it might be worth adding.
- backgammon with dominoes, not dice. , http://www.bkgm.com/variants/DominoBackgammon.html Maybe good for beginners, as there is a bit more luck and a bit less skill. Worth a try Mecir and/or Badger ?
Big Giant Head - In my opinion, this variant does not increase the level of luck as it reduces the possible 'rolls' at any given moment. Still a good one to introduce!
- Double Choice (Triple Choice) Backgammon - http://coan.net/gammon.html - A "user" invented game that adds more strategy & planning to the game, as you can see your opponents next roll choices. (Can also be played with dominoes instead of dice)
2. How about None Cube Gammon Matches, 3,5,7 and 9 point Matches like Backgammon used to be played before the cube was invented?
- 7-30-11...Would like to see the actual roll of dice on gamesheet (5-3, 6-1, etc.).
#How about Backgammon Tennis a 4 player game, 2 players on each side, players make i move in four, ie the Black players play moves 1 and 3 the white players play 2 and 4
- Crowded Checkers
- 2-Way Mancala - in addition to choosing a space to play from, you decide whether to distribute the stones clockwise or counterclockwise.
- Standard 2 player rules
-The Mancala 'board' is made up of two rows of six holes, or pits, each.
-Four pieces -- are placed in each of the 12 holes.
-Each player has a 'goal' to the right side of the Mancala board.
-The game begins with one player picking up all of the pieces in any one of the holes on his side.
-Moving counter-clockwise, the player deposits one of the stones in each hole until the stones run out.
-If you run into your own goal, deposit one piece in it. If you run into your opponent's goal, skip it.
-If the last piece you drop is in your own goal, you get a free turn.
-If the last piece you drop is in an empty hole on your side, you capture that piece and any pieces in the hole directly opposite.
-Always place all captured pieces in your store.
-The game ends when all six spaces on one side of the Mancala board are empty.
-Count all the pieces in each goal. The winner is the player with the most pieces.
- Stealth Halma - you cannot see your opponents pieces
- I think you would have to make it so you can see pieces that you are able to jump on your turn.
- wouldn't part of the fun being locating what you could jump?
- Not really. Maybe on a live game site, but it would be pointless on a turn based site, as you can just use the mouse to hover over every square to see which squares you can jump to, so this would just make locating the pieces unnecessarily complicated IMHO.
- Shogi (Japanese Chess)
- Handicaps in shogi for non-tournament play. (E.g. Left lance, Bishop, Rook, Rook-lance, two-piece, four-piece, six-piece. See Wikipedia.)
- Chu shogi, or "middle chess".
- Sannin shogi, or "3-player shogi".
- Changgi (Korean Chess)
- Chinese Chess (Xiangqi): This is the most popular board game in the world, full of exciting tactical combinations. Both ItsYourTurn and BrainKing have it. It's a shame that GT does not. It would really enhance this site. —T-Rex
- Kings Corner Chess
- Isn't this just a shabby version of Fischer Random Chess? On IYT they have KCC, but no FRC. Gameknot knows better I hope.
- Crazyhouse Chess - now implemented
- Is it? I don't see it on the list. Does it have a different name here?
- Fischer Random Chess
- Switch Chess
- Never heard of this?? It's not on chessvariants.com. If no one can give the slighted hunch of what it is in the next week, I guess it's off the list
- It's mentioned in Pritchard's Encyclopedia of Chess Variants. Aka inverter chess. Description is brief, my interpretation is like pieces (not pawns) of like colour form a "co-ordinated" pair, also Q+K of each colour. If a piece is moved to a different rank or file from its partner, then the occupants of the other corners of the rectangle formed by the co-ordinated pieces exchange places e.g. white has Rs at a1/e1 and plays Re5, then anything at a5 goes to e1 and vice versa. Sounds too wild to be of general interest IMO. McStack
- Horde Chess
- Refusal Chess
- Passive Aggressive Chess
- Maharaja Chess
- Outbreak Chess
- One player has the normal chess pieces, and the other controls viruses just like in the Outbreak game.
- Ultima (Robert Abbott's game)
- 4 player chessgi,where pieces are swapped between players ie 2 ppl per team one black one white, white players taken pieces get passed to partner etc- any thoughts? i used to play this at my club, we called it exchange, could be a fun adition.
- Capablanca Random Chess
- N-Relay Chess
- Alekhine Chess: Played on a 14x8 board, this variant includes three non-standard piece types: the Cardinal (Knight + Bishop), the Marshall (Knight + Rook), and the General (Knight + Bishop + Rook).
- Inheritance Chess: In this variant, the white rook pawns begin on the third rank and the black rook pawns begin on the sixth rank, castling is not permitted, en passant captures are not permitted, and, most importantly, pieces have inheritance powers. Pieces of a given color on the same file inherit the movement powers of one another. These powers do not stay with each piece for the entire game; the inherited powers are only inherited while the pieces are on the same file as one another.
- The Lost Pawns: In this variant, white's pieces actually start on the 7th and 8th ranks, and black’s pieces start on the 1st and 2nd ranks, with the direction of the pieces remaining the same as with a standard chess game. In other words, all pawns are just one square away from promotion. Two-square pawn advances and en-passant captures are obviously not possible since all pawns start on their 7th ranks.
- Wizard Chess [7x7 board; no queens, but 2 new figures: swordsman and wizard. The swordsman moves 1 square forward or 1 forward diagonally; the wizard moves 1 or 2 squares forward, 1 horizontally or 1 backward diagonally; the wizard's 2-square move can be a jump over an occupied square; a pawn cannot make a 2-square move. Promotion at the 7th rank: swordsman always promotes to wizard; pawn promotes to any figure other than king or swordsman.
Initial position for white (mirrored by black):
Note: this is a game invented by Dragon Jr]
- Desert Chess [10x9 board; 12 squares on the board are desert (b4,b5,b6,c4,c5,c6,h4,h5,h6,i4,i5,i6). The new figure in this game is a camel that moves 1 square vertically or horizontally, and also is allowed to play a chess knight's move. Only a camel can end a move on a desert square. Queens, rooks and bishops can walk through vacant desert squares, however. Also, a knight can jump over desert squares, regardless of whether they are occupied. If the square directly ahead of a pawn is desert, the pawn can move (and capture) one square sideways. The castling move is as follows: the king walks 3 squares toward the rook; then the rook leaps over the king, to land beside him.
Initial position for white (mirrored by black):
- Thematic Chess Update - Rename the current Queen's Gambit to Queen's Gambit Accepted, and add a Queen's Gambit Declined option
#Makruk (Thai Chess)
- Dice Chess: roll a 1 and move a pawn, roll a 2 and move a knight, 3 a bishop, 4 a rook, 5 the queen, 6 the king. The computer automatically eliminates unplayable numbers. The game ends when the king is captured. There is also a 10x10 version with three kings. All must be captured in order to win the game. 1926
- Burmese chess
- change komi on 7x7 go to 9 (ps not for the other board sizes) see
24 october 2010
Utter Masters' Special
- Mini Go 4x4 (Coz the larger variants take too bloody long )
- Better make it 9x9, that is still playable - it still take ages though!
- - we do have 9x9 already though, isn't it enough? -- Mecir
21x21 Go in case some 8- or 9-dan professionals find this website to give them a challenge they won't find elsewhere.
This is supposedly the largest odd-numbered square size humans can handle. See Go
discussion. -- M3
18 July 2008
discussion. -- M3
18 July 2008
N in a Row
- Rubik's Illusion
[Royal Plateau: The board is a 4x5 rectangle. There now are 3 ways to win:
- Bingo: All 5 squares in a row are occupied. The top disc on each of these squares is yours.
- Tower of Power: You build a tower of 7 or more discs.
- Full Jail: You capture 7 or more prisoners.
In addition to the usual 3 weapon colors (blue, red, orange), there's a fourth (green).
A stack with a green disc on top can move 1 square in any direction.
The 15 discs a player starts with now are the following:
- 2 mutes (blank/blank) worth 1
- 2 greens (green/green) worth 3
- 2 blues (blue/blue) worth 4
- 2 reds (red/red) worth 5
- 1 green mask (blank/green) worth 7
- 1 blue mask (blank/blue) worth 9
- 1 red mask (blank/red) worth 10
- 1 blue king (blue/green) worth 12
- 1 red king (red/green) worth 14
- 1 twister (blank/orange) worth 15
- 1 ace (blue/red) worth 18]
4 in a Row
- CAN WE HAVE FOUR IN A ROW VERSION THAT IS SEVEN HOLES ACROSS AND SIX HOLES HIGH, THIS THE ENGLISH VERSION OF THE GAME, PROBABLY QUICKER AS WELL, YOU COULD NAME IT CONNECT 4, PRESENT 4 IN A ROW ARE ALL ON 8 HOLES BY 8 HOLES, IT WOULD BE A GOOD CHANGE
- There isn't much point in doing this, this is a proved game. That's why everyone uses 8x8. Also the winning strategy isn't too difficult, unlike say, 15x15 Go-Moku which although solved, still makes a good game for mortals! Non-8x8 Giveaway 4 in a row, with odd number of columns would be worth trying though.
- 3 (or more?) Player version of all variants (esp. Quicksand).
- (Three in 4iar would not work because the first player to move will always win)
- Team based even number multiples could work. You could potentially have a whole club play against another, with each person pitching in just once Nukhulls
- How about on a larger board?
- I believe there is a 3 player Ninuki-Renju which is reasonably playable
- Where would you find this?
- Yea, but in Renju there are restrictions on first player's second move and probably on second player's second move in this 3 player game as well. I can't think of any reasonable restriction for a first or second move in 4iar.
- different board sizes / shapes
- grenade 4IAR - each player has 3 grenades. When it is used, the piece it hits and those next to it are all destroyed.
- Double Hotspot 4iar - Each player has a Hotspot and may place it as a turn, 10x10 board.
- Why would anyone use their HS as it gives them just the same advantages as a normal disc except it ALSO counts for your opponent. JK
- Corollary to above. I took 'place' to mean drop. If you mean place on the board possibly unsupported then it would make a difference to the game - at a guess a win for player 1. JK
- Well you could win a game by placing it in the middle of the board... no gravity, so you could easily win as soon as you had three in a row. Maybe if rules stated you couldn't win using the extra Hotspot, or for 5IAR with a larger board. Otherwise too easy to win IMHO. Nukhulls
- 4IAR Blind - You don't see where your opponent's pieces are until you drop your piece on top of it.
- Would the previous moves just not be shown, even if you have them turned on?? Kevin - this would be easy to disable JK
- you can still view previous boards but you will only see pieces that have one of your own pieces above it.
- when viewing a game that you are not playing in, you would only see pieces with at least one of each colour above it.
- Actually, thinking about it, you would have to make it so that non-players couldn't see any moves until the game is completed.
- Reversi 4IAR - surrounded pieces change colour as in Reversi.
- I have seen this before - it is VERY tricky to get the hang of, is defintely different in feel to 4IAR and is nasty to think ahead. It is not quite like Reversi in that it is adjacent (incl diagonals) that are flipped, not sandwiched pieces. JK
- So it could almost be called Outbreak (Ataxx) 4iar? Or am I missing something ? Mark007
- Double trouble zero G 4iar
- I suspect that as both variants are strong for player 1, then this would give an even bigger advantage JK.
- How about on a bigger board (e.g. 9x9)
- Variable-G 4IAR - like zero-g, except that gravity changes direction each turn (first down, then right, then up, then left, then down again, etc...)
- QuickerSand 4IAR - Same as quicksand, except that the bottom row dissappears whenever a new line of three is made anywhere on the board.
- Can you say neverending?
- OK. How about, only when a diagonal line of three is made?
- or only when the line of three does not include a piece in the bottom row.
- or only the column(s) containing the line sink down. The others remain.
- 3&4IAR - Normal game except that you must make a line of three if you can.
- Three gives 1st player win in 4 moves or less.
- Are you sure, I understood this suggestion to be 4 in a row to win, but if either player CAN make 3iar, then (s)he must - forced move, not a win.
- Yes that was the idea. You still need 4 to win, but if you can make 3 then you must. Like in draughts where you have to jump if you can.
- Sliding 4IAR - the whole board moves left by one after every move. Anything in column A dissappears. You are not allowed to play in column A except to win.
- Partial Giveaway 4IAR - every other move you play a piece of your opponents colour.
- Takeaway 4IAR - In order to win the game you are allowed to remove any piece from the board. All pieces above it drop down one. You can only do this once, on your last move. If you also make a line of four of the other colour, you lose.
- Levitation 4IAR - Pieces are placed two squares above instead of one square above (leaving a gap). When another piece is played on top, the previous piece moves down. (e.g. if blue plays D2 and red plays D3, the blue piece moves to D1.) Pieces are played in the top row as normal.
- Quicksand Black Hole
- Too large advantage for Blue, they would just need to get a horizontal threat, impossible for Red.
- How about with two BH and/or a bigger board?
- Quicksand Hotspot
- What would happen if the hotspot gets quicksanded?
- I don't think this is a problem. The game would continue with no hotspot.
- or it could come back on at the top in the same column?
- Quicksand Double Trouble
- Quicksand Zero-G
- Lol, which way would the quicksand go?
- It can go any way. If column A gets filled, everything shifts left, if row 8 gets filled everything shifts up, etc..
- Secret Blackhole 4IAR - The location of the black hole is not revealed until a piece is dropped onto it.
- Does the piece that is dropped there disappear?
- No. It would sit on top, just like regular blackhole.
- Secret Hotspot 4IAR - The location of the hotspot is not revealed until a piece is dropped onto it.
- This one has no problems!!
- Are you sure It might introduce a little too much of an element of luck, as it would actually be possible to make a winning move without realising. Could be fun though.
- More ideas for different types of hotspots/blackholes
- Chameleon: takes the colour of the majority of discs in the surrounding 8 squares (no change when even number).
- Sink: the first time a disc is dropped in the column with the sink, both that disc and the sink dissappears.
- Grenade: the first time a disk is dropped on the grenade, it explodes taking out everything in the surrounding 8 squares.
- Quicksand Patch: When the row containing the quicksand patch fills up, all the discs in that column moves down one (thereafter it acts as a blackhole)
- Invisible Blackhole: same as normal blackhole but is not visible until a disc is placed in it's square.
- Invisible Hotspot: same as normal hotspot but is not visible until a disc is placed in it's square.
- Breakout Ball: behaves like the ball in the old breakout game. Each go it moves diagonnally, changing direction when it hits a wall or a disc. When it hits a disc, the disc is removed from the board.
- Unstable Blackhole: same as a normal blackhole except that once three discs are placed above it, it dissappears, and all discs above it move down one.
- Flasher: Starts as a blackhole and each go it changes in the following sequence: BH->Blue->HS->Red->BH
- Reverser: The disc placed in this square changes to the opponents colour.
- Moveable Blackhole: Same as a normal BH except that a player may choose to move it to any empty square instead of a normal move (any discs above the BH move down to fill the gap).
- Flipper: When a disc is placed in this square the board is flipped over, the discs in each column slide down so that the last ball placed in each column go to the new bottom row, the second to last ball placed go into the second row etc...
- Anti-Hotspot: Always takes the opposite colour of the last disc placed.
- Low Gravity 4IAR: Pieces are placed in the top row, and all pieces drop one row every turn, until they reach the bottom row, or another piece.
24. Spherical 4IAR: Just like Cilindrical but the top and bottom are connected.
25. Simultaneous move selection: Both players simultaneously select their moves. In case of of same column being selected, one player with the initiative drops first, and then initiative passes to the other player. The details to how this is handled are found here: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/386015
. This variant works with boards that are only six columns wide.
- Variant for a 1v1 game where player's can choose 2 OR 3 home bases.
- Request Reversi (in this variation, a player has to suggest a move, his opponent can grant the move in which case it must be made, otherwise the player must make a move elsewhere)
- Does the Request variation make sense? I can see the twist it adds, but wouldn't the game take twice as long as normal?
- Request variations can be used for most games, and yes they do increase the time, it makes a reasonable chess variant, normally called Refusal Chess.
- It does not change the overall playing time. One way to do this is the following:
- If you have to make a move, you must make 2 choices, a primary and a secondary. If the opponent logs in, he first sees your first choice and gets to reject or accept it.
- If he rejects it, the second choice is made automatically. In this way, you still only need 30 logins per player, not 60.
- Ok, now I get it.
- Hotspot Reversi - currently being discussed in [ Hotspot Variations ]
- Double Trouble Reversi (see also [ Hotspot Variations ])
- Reversi 4IAR - see 4IAR section above
- As noted above, it is more of a 4IAR variant than a reversi one JK
- automatic Reversi (4 squares in middle already placed) How about just calling it original Reversi?
- The original Reversi game (1800's) had no disc placed. The 1970's Japanese version (Othello) does. 1926
- Should there be non-populable spots for the black hole/hotspot in these variations of reversi.
- I'm such an old-school player of the game, that I'm having a hard time accepting/understanding the variations.
- For BH, I reckon everything is populable (just like for BH 4inarow), however for HS and DT there are likely to be some HS positions that are unacceptable (just like there are in 4 in row (you did know that didn't you ;-) ). My worry is that there may not be any possible placements of HSs that make the game fair. I reckon the initial central 4 squares could be possible *** BH placements. If there are any others keen to contribute to the discussion about playability of HS maybe we should create a new Wiki for it. JK
- Double Blackhole - maybe a fairer game unlike one blackhole which is a parity advantage to black The_Burglar
- I agree; the number of moves should be the same for both players. 1926
8. Team Reversi - Players 1 & 3 are the black team. Players 2 & 4 are the white team. Player 1 makes 1st move for the black team. Player 2 makes 1st move for white team. Player 3 makes 2nd move for black team. Player 4 makes 2nd move for white team. And so on throughout the game. Sir Lawrence of the GoldTable .
- Giveaway Salvo (you try to place your ships so they get hit, first person to hit all 5 ships at least once loses)
- More than 1 shot at a time when playing 2 player games. Makes for quicker games
- Definitely more than one shot 4 would be better. Computuer should be able to place ships.
- A variation where you get as many shots as you have ships
- Battleboats plus and Dark Battleboats plus on its your turn
- Global Salvo- Make the board 4x4 bigger, add 1-2 boat(s) to the game but no more than 2. Allow only 2 or 3 shots per move but no more than 3. This game can also expand into other varients such as devious global salvo and others. I think this game is a good compromise for all and should be easy to code because the basis is all ready here.
- The possibility to relocate a ship (at the cost of a move)
- Different ammo for different ships (bigger ships have more ammo, this making it for once more important to sink the bigger ship first), when ammo is out you have to reload (takes one move) make a sub really a sub which for example only can be hit with a sinkbomb. The possibilities here are endless.
- I think the multiple shots is a good idea, but should be dependant upon how many boats you have left unsunk. (e.g. 5 boats = 5 shots,and so on) :o)
- This is classic Salvo as described in a quite old Dover book of paper-and-pencil games. I don't know where my copy of the book is, but I remember this rule. It makes for a quick game and a decided advantage for discovering opponents' ships early in the game. I believe fire is resolved simultaneously, which allows for the small possibility of complete annihilation of both navies!
- FixitDave 's version, when I played battle ships on paper I made a few rule changes
- You had a small island covering 6 squares, the island can be placed in any shape as long as the 6 sections are directly connected (no diagonals).
- You also have an atom bomb, it will sink/destroy the entire ship/island if it hits.
- Radar Salvo (See One ship from one player for one turn, only once per game)
- alternatively why not make each square next to where you go is made visible.
- Super Devious Salvo - Same as Devious Salvo, but you don't see other players' misses.
- Some variation on devious salvo where the ducks can get their own back (I feel sorry for them).
- I'd like to see a version where the decoy explodes when hit and blows up anything in its area
- That's a good idea, you could call them mines instead of decoys.
- I've seen a version where when you hit a ship, you get another shot. The next player only gets their go once you miss. This could be popular, as it will make for a faster game.
- Moving Salvo - All ships that are placed horizontally automatically move one square to the right every move. Vertical ships move up. When a ship reaches the edge it then starts moving in the opposite direction. Once a ship is hit, it stops moving. A ship will also stop if it would collide with another ship. Once a ship is completely sunk, it dissappears allowing other ships to sail over it.
- Diagonals! The original manual game was restricted to files and rows because the pegs had to fit in the holes - no such restrictions apply to an online game....this would add a whole new dimension - files, rows AND diagonals. I think this would make for an interesting variant, or just expand the original.
- The original didn't have pegs and holes. It was played on pencil and paper. Diagonals might be a nice option though.
- Classic Battleship (Hoyles Book of Games 1940s) 1 Shot for each ship remaining; Diagonal placement of ships allowed; Simultaneous shooting 5 shots each to start; Report only # of hits on each type ship and when a ship is sunk not which shot hit which ship; hits on ships not show on opponents board only where shots were fired.
- Devious or Stealth Dice Salvo
- How about hot spots or patterns?
- The original game (Ataxx), you also had blocks (similar to blackhole in BH 4IAR).
- How about Dark OutBreak - Best on Large board, can only see the pieces directly next to your current pieces. Can not "jump" into dark space.
- Had an idea for 8 player outbreak with octogonal board. Would change the strategy a lot. Jaime
- Run Out - first to use all their dominoes wins ! easy game - just follow doms already laid ie 6 on 6 etc
- Block Dominoes (instead of drawing from the boneyard when you can't go, you knock and miss a turn).
- Cross Dominoes (play in four directions off the doubles)
- This is better with the double-nine (or even bigger) domino set.
- threes, fives & sevens
- three fives, sevens and elevens
- three fives, sevens, elevens and thirteens
- all primes (three fives, sevens, elevens, thirteens, seventeens ans twenty-threes)
- Tri-ominoes........ 3 sided tiles
- Spinner you can play sideways off the first double played. (not sure if this is the same as "Cross Dominoes" I read that one as being able to play off all doubles)
- 'FOUR HAND TEXAS' ------THIS MAY CAUSE TOO MANY PROGRAMMING OBSTACLES OR MIGHT BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO PLAY !!!
Opposite players are partners, each person drawing seven pieces (double-six set). -Ten points each are given on the five-five and six-four; five points are given on the five-naught, three-two and four-one;
-Each trick counts as a point; this makes a total of forty-two possible points for each hand.
-Bidding is to the left of the one chosen to start who is called the dealer. Dealer bids last.
-The ‘double’ of the trump bid is the highest, as for example, if 3’s are trump the
three-three is the highest; then comes the six-three, the five-three, etc.
-Doubles also may be bid and when made trump the highest double takes the trick.
-No trumps may also be bid.
Each bidder bids the value of his hand and other players may raise or pass as they choose. -Thirty is the lowest bid that can be made to start.
-When a player has bid a limit bid, namely 42, each of the other players has the privilege of
continuing the bid by doubling, in other words, the second bidder after a bid of 42 is made, must bid 84 or pass.
-The third bidder must bid 168 or pass and the fourth bidde must bid 250 or pass.
-Bidding is continued until one player secures the bid after all others have passed.
-Trumps are not named until after bidding has been completed.
-Player must follow suit and if he cannot do so, he can either trump or discard.
-Bidder has first lead.
Each side scores the number of points actually taken in unless the bidder fails to make his bid, in which case, the side not bidding counts its own score plus the amount bid.
-When limit bids have been made the winner counts the amount of his bid, if a limit bidder
loses his bid his opponents score the amount of his bid plus the score they make.
-Two Hundred and Fifty points constitutes game and in case of a close game when both sides
'go out’, the bidder is always he winner even though his total points over 250 may be less than his opponents.
In playing no trump, the highest spot of the piece led becomes the trump for that particular trick, and other players must follow that trump or discard, in no trump the ‘double’ is always the highest. In this game, tricks and honors are what count and there is no line built. Excerpts taken from Cardinal Industries, Inc.
#11-SPINNERS-First Double played in all GT`s Domino Variations is played on all 4 sides. First played on the 2 sides and then the ends. Many of our Domino players, as well as myself, learned Dominoes (and all variations of Dominoes)like this,using the first double played as the Spinner.
Perhaps add this feature to the existing Domino games or Add New Domino Games of Dominoes,Muggins and Three's and Five's with Spinner.
#12 Mexican Train Dominoes
- Grabble with no multipliers
- Grabble Swapper Race
- Small Grabble
- Small Grabble Swapper
- Small Grabble Race
- Small Grabble Swapper Race
- Large Grabble
- Large Grabble Swapper
- Large Grabble Race
- Large Grabble Swapper Race
- giveaway grabble
- challenge grabble
- Giveaway Dots games
- Add 2 Dice to dice dots... That would make it more interesting.
Shake, Rattle & Roll
- Liar Dice
- Ketchup shake (catch-up) shake
- I spend a lot of time here along with a lot others I'm sure waiting for your opponents to move. What about a variant to where you play as much or as little of your side as you like when you're on, then when your opponent comes on he could do the same. Time limits could still apply as 1 day or so on. The game would sit on your page until you move, save it & then line up again as games do now. Could be our 1st form of solitaire game.Linda J
- Golf Poker
Hello, here is the new approach to play Dice Poker 6D ... something for golf lovers ... below are the rules:
1. There are 18 holes in the whole course ...
2. I introduced 3 additional categories: 1 pair, 2 pairs and 3 of a kind (nothing new, they exist in regular poker) that gives us 18 categories (holes). Below is the score table for all 18 holes:
Ones - a sum of all 1's
Twos - a sum of all 2's
Threes - a sum of all 3's
Fours - a sum of all 4's
Fives - a sum of all 5's
Sixes - a sum of all 6's
1 Pair - 2 dice with the same numbers+ 4 dice with different numbers - sum of all dice (examples for 3 new categories below)
2 Pairs - 2 dice with the same nubers + 2 dice with the same numbers(different than the first pair) + 2 different dice (different from 2 first pairs) - sum of all dice
3 of a kind - 3 dice with the same numbers + 3 different numbers - sum of all dice
4 of a kind (4 or more dice with the same number) - a sum of all dice
5 of a kind (5 or more dice with the same number) - a sum of all dice
Full House (3 dice with the same number + 2 dice with the same number, and those two numbers must be different) - sum of the dice
Full Car (2 dice with the same number + 2 dice with the same number + 2 dice with the same number, and those three numbers must be different) - sum of the dice
Full Hotel (3 dice with the same number + 3 dice with the same number, and those two numbers must be different) - sum of the dice
Large Straight (a straight of 5 or more dice) - 123456(21points) wins the hole over 23456(20 points) which wins the hole over 12345(15 points)
Full Straight (a straight of all dice) - 1 point scored immediately in the hole (when other player scores in this hole, it's a draw for this hole)
6 of a kind (all dice with the same number) - higher 6 of a kind is the hole winner (222222 beats 111111 etc.)
Chance (any dice combination) - a sum of all dice</ol>
Now, player that get higher score in particular hole is the winner of this hole ... who wins more holes wins the whole course and becomes champion ... when players win equal number of holes it's a draw. After players score points for a particular hole, software replaces scores for O for the loser and 1 for the winner ... during the game it is very important to target scores already made in particular holes. WINNING THE HOLE IS THE SUB-GOAL (similar to real golf) ... fixed scores for hotel, car, full house etc are abolished and replaced by actual point scores and it adds more excitements to the game ...here are the examples of 3 new categories ...
1 pair ... 44 5631 (no numbers can repeat itself) - example of wrong sequence: 44 1354 (4 is repeated)
2 pairs ... 33 11 24 (no numbers can repeat itself) - example of wrong sequence: 33 11 35 (3 is repeated)
3 of a kind ... 444 132 (no numbers repeat itself) - example of wrong sequence: 444 564 (4 is repeated) ...
I wonder what do you think about this Golf Poker ...?
Cheers, Andy (aikidomino)
#I call it "Shake it in Order" and the way it works is:
1. Use the Shake Rattle & Roll board and rules to start.
2. Each person tries to get ones on their first roll, twos on their second roll, threes on their third roll, etc. All the way to the end of the board ending
3. If someone plays in the wrong spot they loose. This would be in the program of the game itself so could not happen.
I have played this and tested this games with several players in my club (The High Rollers Club - which is the best club to test this with). It had a very high percentage of people liking the game and would play it if offered. Some say they had play a game like in in some ways in other clubs but not this exact one and way. I think if it was an offered game it would have good success. I believe (not to tell you how to do your job but just as a thought) if you were to copy all rules, codes, and information from "Shake Rattle & Roll" into a new file called "Shake it in Order", change background color, rename the different required inputs, etc, and lock all inputs then add the command to unlock top posittion (1's) on first move, next (2's) on second roll, etc should pretty much make the new game. I know there is more to it but since I do not know what language used so cannot say what commands to use.
**where you don't lay your tiles down until you have a complete hand with a discard.
example 333,777,999,10 11 12 13.
**use points to win first one to get 500 or 1000. Tiles 2 through 9 worth 10 points,
10 through 13 worth 20 points, wild tiles are worth what you use them for unless you
are caught with it in your hand then 50 points. and the 1 is worth on how you use it,
10 if used as a low tile or 20 if used as high. Points are added and subtracted at the
end of each round.
***American Rummikub and Rummikub
***Play a "straights only" variant. I have been invited to several games based on what I have said in my profile and everyone has enjoyed it much more and it does not take a long time to play. In the three of a kind version if a player puts three of one number down then you have to hold a possible straight until you get the opportunity to take a number from the board or get a wild card.
Works for both games
How about a couple of new versions for fun. One that uses even numbers only and one with odd numbers only whitekitten
***I think it would be interesting to have a "Team Domination" variant for 4 or 6 players. There are many ways it could work, but one very simple way would be to have the object be to eliminate all the opposing team's armies, with no changes at all to the play of each turn. I.e., players could still legally attack all other players' territories, including teammates. A strategic reason for attacking/capturing a teammate's territory might for example be that teammate 1 is passing through teammate 2's territory to attack an opponent's territory, or teammate 1 is capturing a territory where teammate 2 deliberately left only one army, so that teammate 1 could easily secure a continent bonus. This would require very little reprogramming, as the only rule changes would be determining the end of the game, determining the multiple victors, and implementing rating changes accordingly.
Alternatively, a team variant could permit teammate's armies to occupy the same territory. This would be more realistic in terms of allies not shooting at each other, but continent bonuses would necessarily be a little more complicated. For example, the extra armies could be split among team members when the team collectively controls a continent. Or, for continent and territory bonus purposes, each territory could be considered occupied by the team member who most recently captured the territory from the enemy team (or from neutral armies), or whose armies were initially placed in that territory if the territory has never been captured, and would be continued to be counted as that player's territory even if that player removes all of his armies, leaving only a teammate's armies present. A continent bonus would only be awarded if a single team member "occupied" all the territories in a continent in that sense.
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variant for 4 or 6 players. There are many ways it could work, but one very simple way would be to have the object be to eliminate all the opposing team's armies, with no changes at all to the play of each turn. I.e., players could still legally attack all other players' territories, including teammates. A strategic reason for attacking/capturing a teammate's territory might for example be that teammate 1 is passing through teammate 2's territory to attack an opponent's territory, or teammate 1 is capturing a territory where teammate 2 deliberately left only one army, so that teammate 1 could easily secure a continent bonus. This would require very little reprogramming, as the only rule changes would be determining the end of the game, determining the multiple victors, and implementing rating changes accordingly.
Alternatively, a team variant could permit teammate's armies to occupy the same territory. This would be more realistic in terms of allies not shooting at each other, but continent bonuses would necessarily be a little more complicated. For example, the extra armies could be split among team members when the team collectively controls a continent. Or, for continent and territory bonus purposes, each territory could be considered occupied by the team member who most recently captured the territory from the enemy team (or from neutral armies), or whose armies were initially placed in that territory if the territory has never been captured, and would be continued to be counted as that player's territory even if that player removes all of his armies, leaving only a teammate's armies present. A continent bonus would only be awarded if a single team member
Howdy! Just a suggestion for ya.. with Executioner, I think it would be better and much more fair to be given another turn whenever a letter is guessed correctly. My opponent and I keep "stealing" each other's words following a correct guess by the other!
How about, in Whist variant Spades, allow partnerships. When inviting, you could (maybe) choose your partner, and in tournaments, the stronger players could (maybe) choose their partners, too, or something. The way it works is, if neither partner has a nil bid, the bids are combined to form the "contract", so that if I bid 3, and my partner bids 5, our contract is 8, and together we have to make it. But if one bids nil, our bids are separate, but our scores are still combined.